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|  | netdev FAQ | 
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|  | Q: What is netdev? | 
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|  | A: It is a mailing list for all network-related Linux stuff.  This | 
|  | includes anything found under net/ (i.e. core code like IPv6) and | 
|  | drivers/net (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree. | 
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|  | Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high | 
|  | volume of traffic have their own specific mailing lists. | 
|  |  | 
|  | The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through | 
|  | VGER (http://vger.kernel.org/) and archives can be found below: | 
|  |  | 
|  | -  http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev | 
|  | -  http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/ | 
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|  | Aside from subsystems like that mentioned above, all network-related | 
|  | Linux development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on | 
|  | netdev. | 
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|  | Q: How do the changes posted to netdev make their way into Linux? | 
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|  | A: There are always two trees (git repositories) in play.  Both are | 
|  | driven by David Miller, the main network maintainer.  There is the | 
|  | ``net`` tree, and the ``net-next`` tree.  As you can probably guess from | 
|  | the names, the ``net`` tree is for fixes to existing code already in the | 
|  | mainline tree from Linus, and ``net-next`` is where the new code goes | 
|  | for the future release.  You can find the trees here: | 
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|  | - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net.git | 
|  | - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next.git | 
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|  | Q: How often do changes from these trees make it to the mainline Linus tree? | 
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|  | A: To understand this, you need to know a bit of background information on | 
|  | the cadence of Linux development.  Each new release starts off with a | 
|  | two week "merge window" where the main maintainers feed their new stuff | 
|  | to Linus for merging into the mainline tree.  After the two weeks, the | 
|  | merge window is closed, and it is called/tagged ``-rc1``.  No new | 
|  | features get mainlined after this -- only fixes to the rc1 content are | 
|  | expected.  After roughly a week of collecting fixes to the rc1 content, | 
|  | rc2 is released.  This repeats on a roughly weekly basis until rc7 | 
|  | (typically; sometimes rc6 if things are quiet, or rc8 if things are in a | 
|  | state of churn), and a week after the last vX.Y-rcN was done, the | 
|  | official vX.Y is released. | 
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|  | Relating that to netdev: At the beginning of the 2-week merge window, | 
|  | the ``net-next`` tree will be closed - no new changes/features.  The | 
|  | accumulated new content of the past ~10 weeks will be passed onto | 
|  | mainline/Linus via a pull request for vX.Y -- at the same time, the | 
|  | ``net`` tree will start accumulating fixes for this pulled content | 
|  | relating to vX.Y | 
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|  | An announcement indicating when ``net-next`` has been closed is usually | 
|  | sent to netdev, but knowing the above, you can predict that in advance. | 
|  |  | 
|  | IMPORTANT: Do not send new ``net-next`` content to netdev during the | 
|  | period during which ``net-next`` tree is closed. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Shortly after the two weeks have passed (and vX.Y-rc1 is released), the | 
|  | tree for ``net-next`` reopens to collect content for the next (vX.Y+1) | 
|  | release. | 
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|  | If you aren't subscribed to netdev and/or are simply unsure if | 
|  | ``net-next`` has re-opened yet, simply check the ``net-next`` git | 
|  | repository link above for any new networking-related commits.  You may | 
|  | also check the following website for the current status: | 
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|  | http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/net-next.html | 
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|  | The ``net`` tree continues to collect fixes for the vX.Y content, and is | 
|  | fed back to Linus at regular (~weekly) intervals.  Meaning that the | 
|  | focus for ``net`` is on stabilization and bug fixes. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Finally, the vX.Y gets released, and the whole cycle starts over. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: So where are we now in this cycle? | 
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|  | Load the mainline (Linus) page here: | 
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|  | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git | 
|  |  | 
|  | and note the top of the "tags" section.  If it is rc1, it is early in | 
|  | the dev cycle.  If it was tagged rc7 a week ago, then a release is | 
|  | probably imminent. | 
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|  | Q: How do I indicate which tree (net vs. net-next) my patch should be in? | 
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|  | A: Firstly, think whether you have a bug fix or new "next-like" content. | 
|  | Then once decided, assuming that you use git, use the prefix flag, i.e. | 
|  | :: | 
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|  | git format-patch --subject-prefix='PATCH net-next' start..finish | 
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|  | Use ``net`` instead of ``net-next`` (always lower case) in the above for | 
|  | bug-fix ``net`` content.  If you don't use git, then note the only magic | 
|  | in the above is just the subject text of the outgoing e-mail, and you | 
|  | can manually change it yourself with whatever MUA you are comfortable | 
|  | with. | 
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|  | Q: I sent a patch and I'm wondering what happened to it? | 
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|  | Q: How can I tell whether it got merged? | 
|  | A: Start by looking at the main patchworks queue for netdev: | 
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|  | http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/netdev/list/ | 
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|  | The "State" field will tell you exactly where things are at with your | 
|  | patch. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: The above only says "Under Review".  How can I find out more? | 
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|  | A: Generally speaking, the patches get triaged quickly (in less than | 
|  | 48h).  So be patient.  Asking the maintainer for status updates on your | 
|  | patch is a good way to ensure your patch is ignored or pushed to the | 
|  | bottom of the priority list. | 
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|  | Q: I submitted multiple versions of the patch series | 
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|  | Q: should I directly update patchwork for the previous versions of these | 
|  | patch series? | 
|  | A: No, please don't interfere with the patch status on patchwork, leave | 
|  | it to the maintainer to figure out what is the most recent and current | 
|  | version that should be applied. If there is any doubt, the maintainer | 
|  | will reply and ask what should be done. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: How can I tell what patches are queued up for backporting to the various stable releases? | 
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|  | A: Normally Greg Kroah-Hartman collects stable commits himself, but for | 
|  | networking, Dave collects up patches he deems critical for the | 
|  | networking subsystem, and then hands them off to Greg. | 
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|  | There is a patchworks queue that you can see here: | 
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|  | http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/bundle/davem/stable/?state=* | 
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|  | It contains the patches which Dave has selected, but not yet handed off | 
|  | to Greg.  If Greg already has the patch, then it will be here: | 
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|  | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/stable-queue.git | 
|  |  | 
|  | A quick way to find whether the patch is in this stable-queue is to | 
|  | simply clone the repo, and then git grep the mainline commit ID, e.g. | 
|  | :: | 
|  |  | 
|  | stable-queue$ git grep -l 284041ef21fdf2e | 
|  | releases/3.0.84/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch | 
|  | releases/3.4.51/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch | 
|  | releases/3.9.8/ipv6-fix-possible-crashes-in-ip6_cork_release.patch | 
|  | stable/stable-queue$ | 
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|  | Q: I see a network patch and I think it should be backported to stable. | 
|  | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 
|  | Q: Should I request it via stable@vger.kernel.org like the references in | 
|  | the kernel's Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst file say? | 
|  | A: No, not for networking.  Check the stable queues as per above first | 
|  | to see if it is already queued.  If not, then send a mail to netdev, | 
|  | listing the upstream commit ID and why you think it should be a stable | 
|  | candidate. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Before you jump to go do the above, do note that the normal stable rules | 
|  | in :ref:`Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst <stable_kernel_rules>` | 
|  | still apply.  So you need to explicitly indicate why it is a critical | 
|  | fix and exactly what users are impacted.  In addition, you need to | 
|  | convince yourself that you *really* think it has been overlooked, | 
|  | vs. having been considered and rejected. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Generally speaking, the longer it has had a chance to "soak" in | 
|  | mainline, the better the odds that it is an OK candidate for stable.  So | 
|  | scrambling to request a commit be added the day after it appears should | 
|  | be avoided. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: I have created a network patch and I think it should be backported to stable. | 
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|  | Q: Should I add a Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org like the references in the | 
|  | kernel's Documentation/ directory say? | 
|  | A: No.  See above answer.  In short, if you think it really belongs in | 
|  | stable, then ensure you write a decent commit log that describes who | 
|  | gets impacted by the bug fix and how it manifests itself, and when the | 
|  | bug was introduced.  If you do that properly, then the commit will get | 
|  | handled appropriately and most likely get put in the patchworks stable | 
|  | queue if it really warrants it. | 
|  |  | 
|  | If you think there is some valid information relating to it being in | 
|  | stable that does *not* belong in the commit log, then use the three dash | 
|  | marker line as described in | 
|  | :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <the_canonical_patch_format>` | 
|  | to temporarily embed that information into the patch that you send. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: Are all networking bug fixes backported to all stable releases? | 
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|  | A: Due to capacity, Dave could only take care of the backports for the | 
|  | last two stable releases. For earlier stable releases, each stable | 
|  | branch maintainer is supposed to take care of them. If you find any | 
|  | patch is missing from an earlier stable branch, please notify | 
|  | stable@vger.kernel.org with either a commit ID or a formal patch | 
|  | backported, and CC Dave and other relevant networking developers. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: Is the comment style convention different for the networking content? | 
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|  | A: Yes, in a largely trivial way.  Instead of this:: | 
|  |  | 
|  | /* | 
|  | * foobar blah blah blah | 
|  | * another line of text | 
|  | */ | 
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|  | it is requested that you make it look like this:: | 
|  |  | 
|  | /* foobar blah blah blah | 
|  | * another line of text | 
|  | */ | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: I am working in existing code that has the former comment style and not the latter. | 
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|  | Q: Should I submit new code in the former style or the latter? | 
|  | A: Make it the latter style, so that eventually all code in the domain | 
|  | of netdev is of this format. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: I found a bug that might have possible security implications or similar. | 
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|  | Q: Should I mail the main netdev maintainer off-list?** | 
|  | A: No. The current netdev maintainer has consistently requested that | 
|  | people use the mailing lists and not reach out directly.  If you aren't | 
|  | OK with that, then perhaps consider mailing security@kernel.org or | 
|  | reading about http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/distros | 
|  | as possible alternative mechanisms. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: What level of testing is expected before I submit my change? | 
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|  | A: If your changes are against ``net-next``, the expectation is that you | 
|  | have tested by layering your changes on top of ``net-next``.  Ideally | 
|  | you will have done run-time testing specific to your change, but at a | 
|  | minimum, your changes should survive an ``allyesconfig`` and an | 
|  | ``allmodconfig`` build without new warnings or failures. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Q: Any other tips to help ensure my net/net-next patch gets OK'd? | 
|  | ----------------------------------------------------------------- | 
|  | A: Attention to detail.  Re-read your own work as if you were the | 
|  | reviewer.  You can start with using ``checkpatch.pl``, perhaps even with | 
|  | the ``--strict`` flag.  But do not be mindlessly robotic in doing so. | 
|  | If your change is a bug fix, make sure your commit log indicates the | 
|  | end-user visible symptom, the underlying reason as to why it happens, | 
|  | and then if necessary, explain why the fix proposed is the best way to | 
|  | get things done.  Don't mangle whitespace, and as is common, don't | 
|  | mis-indent function arguments that span multiple lines.  If it is your | 
|  | first patch, mail it to yourself so you can test apply it to an | 
|  | unpatched tree to confirm infrastructure didn't mangle it. | 
|  |  | 
|  | Finally, go back and read | 
|  | :ref:`Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst <submittingpatches>` | 
|  | to be sure you are not repeating some common mistake documented there. |